IS THE ORIGINALITY DEAD.... I HOPE NOT

I WANT TO FIRST SAY TO ALL OF YOU INSTRUCTORS OUT THERE THAT ARE TEACHING BOX CADENCES AND BOX FEATURES...STOP.... REAL BOX CATS DON'T WANT TO HEAR EVERY DRUM SECTION IN THE WORLD PLAYING OUR CADENCES..HELL THAT'S WHY THEY ARE CALLED BOX CADENCES. MAKE UP YOUR OWN CADENCES AND FEATURES. I'M NOT SAYING DON'T DO FEATURES I'M SAYING DON'T DO A BOX FEATURE. I'M NOT SAYING DON'T USE OUT STYLE, I'M SAYING DON'T DO A BOX FEATURE BE ORIGINAL PLEASE. IF YOU CAN SIT YOUR @SS DOWN AND DISSECT A BOX TAPE AND TRY AND LEARN THE PARTS FOR HOURS AND DAYS, JUST THINK WHAT YOU COULD HAVE DONE ON YOUR OWN...WE DID IT SO YOU CAN DO IT..... YOU CAN MAKE A CADENCE UP LISTENING TO THE PATTERNS THAT RAIN DROPS MAKE, LISTENING TO THE TICKING THAT A CEILING FAN MAKES AND LISTENING TO YOUR TIRES ROLLING ON THE GROUND DAMN ANYTHING BUT PLEASE QUIT PLAYING BOX CADENCES.... AND ANOTHER THING IF I AM JUDGING A DRUM COMPETITION,,,FROM NOW ON ...IF YOU PLAY A BOX CADENCE YOU ARE GOING TO GET A ZERO(0) FROM ME ON ORIGINALITY. DO NOT ASK ME WHY YOU LOST CAUSE I AM TELLING YOUR @SS RIGHT NOW.

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  • I doubt that All of yall cadences are original ... If a high school is playing your cadences just as good as you, commend them.

    Being from N.O, I've grew up Hearing the same 50 Cadences through out my Life, Played & Named Differently by Many bands..the most i could do was say "I dont like the way they play it, & We play it better" and things like that..
    .the least you can do is critique and maybe give them effort for trying. ..but hey if they're just flat out wrong than hey..u can Smack on'em all night....lol

    I don't think Johnny Lane would be mad at anyone playing his cadences.. especially if they're playing them as Written by him Rather than By Ear as many sections do... Im just saying..
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  • I AM NOT MAD JUST TIRED OF GOING TO COMPETIONS, GAMES AND PARADES AND EVERY DRUM SECTION BATTLE EACH OTHER WITH THE SAME FEW CADENCES AND THE TRIP THING IS THAT THEY KNOW THAT THEY ARE BOX CADENCES. AT FIRST IT WAS COOL BECAUSE IT LET US KNOW THAT WE WERE LOVED OUT THERE BUT WHEN YOU HAVE NO ORIGINAL BULLETS IN YOUR GUN IT MAKES ME MAD BECAUSE WITHOUT THE ABILITY TO CREATE YOU LEAVE NOTHING FOR THE NEXT GENERATION. AND SOMETIMES THEY WILL PLAY THE SAME CADENCES BACK AT EACHOTHER. BANDS PLAYING THE SAME SONG IS DIFFERENT BECAUSE IT'S ALL ABOUT THE WRITER'S INTERPERTATION. IT IS INTERESTING THAT YOU SAID THAT ABOUT JOHNNY LANE THE GREAT, WE DO PLAY 1 JOHNNY LANE CADENCE AND THAT'S BECAUSE THE PERCUSSION INSTRUCTOR AT PV BROUGHT IT WITH HIM FROM TENNESSE STATE BACK IN THE 70'S. JUST ONE .... AND IT'S THE LAST CADENCE IN OUR MARCHING SEQUENCE. BUT PLEASE BELIEVE MY BROTHER THAT EVERYTHING THAT WE HAVE PLAYED AND PLAY IS ORIGINAL. YOU HAVE TO REMEMBER THIS, YOU GREW UP DURING A TIME WHEN BOX CADENCES WERE SATURATED EVERYWHERE AND PLEASE BELIEVE THAT, I DON'T KNOW HOW OLD YOU ARE BUT WE HAVE BEEN WRECKING FOR THE LAST 25 YEARS AND IT'S BEEN 33 YEARS SINCE THE BOX WAS CREATED AND WE CREATED THIS THING CALLED SHOWSTYLE DRUMMING. SECTIONS WERE PLAYING CADENCES BUT WE TOOK THIS THING TO A WHOLE NOTHER LEVEL
  • IN FACT I LIKE TO HEAR TXSU (FUNKTRAIN) PLAY, THEY HAVE SOME ORIGINAL CADENCES THAT JAM AND SOME THAT ARE FUNKY AS HELL. SU (THE FUNK FACTORY) HAS SOME CADENCES THAT JAM, AND JSTATE (WAR AND THUNDER) JUST TO NAME A FEW. WE ARE NOT THE ONLY ONES THAT MAKE UP ORIGINAL MATERIAL. I TRYING TO GET EVERY SECTION TO DO THIS MORE SO THAT WE CAN BREAK THIS CYCLE OF WAITING FOR SOMEONE ELSE TO MAKE SOMETHING UP SO THAT YOU CAN BITE ON IT. AND IF YOU GO TO THE EAST COAST I LIKE COLD STEEL, AND THE MILLION DOLLAR FUNK SQUAD... THOSE BOYS GO HARD... ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS TRY
  • AHH I SEE..I WILL TAKE NOTES OF THIS........ THANKS SKIP FOR THE HEADS UP.
  • Yeah I gotcha man.. I knew i shoulda played Bass Drum..lol
  • ..... Now look at his enthusiam, add in a beer or two, 4am, the night before a big game, and the BOX feature isn't right.....

    I can just hear it in my mind right now:

    "Back in the hole!"
    "Can we get one more?"
    "5 More times for the B.O.....!"

    lmao

    Skippa D, I have to say that I was just hoping you would decide to take your arse home. lol.
    But I have to admit, I wouldn't have gotten my skill of creating those beasty tenor blasts without you bro.
  • HARD WORK PAYS OFF.... 1 LOVE.... BOX LOVE
  • Oooh Lord thank you jesus but I hate to say it big bro I been waitin on people to reply to my discussion about originallity. But no one replied cuz its some real shit. I teach at SKYLINE now and I DONT LET THEM PLAY OR TEACH them anything that the BO play. I make up my own stuff and my material is a result of hard got dang work. day in day out. I mglad you said it bro cuz the people thats doin it ain't gone reply just like they did my discussion.
  • Hey pops you know we ran it back more than that becuz it had to be perfect. But boys don't see that hard work pays off everythang is givin to them. These new breed of "drummers" will only change if they want to you can only teach them so much, its up to them wanna better themselves cuz when they get to college what if the BOX don't play none of those cadences anymore then they up shit creek with out a paddle. Really as a Drum Instructer I can honestly say that Skyline ain't playin no bullshit. And I can proove it to you next Friday at the Disd BATLLE OF THE DRUMMERS.
    Thetruth111 said:
    ..... Now look at his enthusiam, add in a beer or two, 4am, the night before a big game, and the BOX feature isn't right.....

    I can just hear it in my mind right now:

    "Back in the hole!"
    "Can we get one more?"
    "5 More times for the B.O.....!"

    lmao

    Skippa D, I have to say that I was just hoping you would decide to take your arse home. lol.
    But I have to admit, I wouldn't have gotten my skill of creating those beasty tenor blasts without you bro.
    IS THE ORIGINALITY DEAD.... I HOPE NOT
    I WANT TO FIRST SAY TO ALL OF YOU INSTRUCTORS OUT THERE THAT ARE TEACHING BOX CADENCES AND BOX FEATURES...STOP.... REAL BOX CATS DON'T WANT TO HEAR E…
  • to skip i feel u dawg
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