This discussion is to be very informative for high school and middle school musicians.Because there are alot of students graduating this year. I would love for them to come to the Ocean but if they choose not to they need to be in someone University. Attending school learning not just playing in the band.The instrument that you march or others you kow how to play.what advice can you give on how to become a better player.What are your method of playing and etc.
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I guess you could start by getting a good method book(Arban's, Rochut, Fink etc.) and set up a practice rehearsal schedule. For warm-ups, practice long-tones and lip slurs for lip flexibility and tone production. Also try getting some exposure to professional musicians on your respective instrument.
simple yet effective thought:
listen to those who have played longer than you so you can pick up different technique advices here and there. Never think your too good to listen to the next guy/girl...cause they might change u into a beast
if you come to gsu be prepared to travel....alot. but
remember your education comes FIRST!
trumpets get you that arbans or SOME advanced method or etude book.
make a practice SCHEDULE dont just do it.
have something to accomplish and do it in a logical time frame.
like 20 minutes of warm-ups scales and longtones etc and 40 minutes
toward a particular etude or song or whatever. thats an hour right there.
thats not what i'm telling you to do... just an example.
consistant practice makes you better. CONSISTANT PRACTICE
i cant share my method...cuz its none of yall bizness (^_^)
Not a University musician anymore but I think I've told you this EVERYTIME I'VE SEEN YOU. I oughta BEAT YOU for not remembering Chynaman! lol
1. Listen FIRST.- Do you want to focus on jazz, classical or marching (by marching I mean writing, composing and arranging). Go get the cd's and listen. Or, ask someone where to find them and who to listen to. Play what the pros play and THEN create your own style.
2. Tonality- you should be doing longtones on every warm-up. Dexterity and speed and articulation will come with a better tone quality. PERIOD.
3. Scales scales scales- modes, minors, majors, triads, blues, bebop
4. Listen again. Listen to as many different genres of your focus as you can. I don't ever just listen to straight ahead or blue jazz. I listen to reggae, funk, New Orleans brass band, zydeco (which is some of the hardest to improv on LOL)- zydeco is NOT second line music, salsa, merenque, samba, contemporary. For classical- find your local classical station if you can't find the cd's and listen listen listen.
5. Build your memorized repertoire for maximum interpretation. Go buy the sheet music. Don't smoke up your little cash, buy the sheet music. Memorize it or passages of it and play it. Incorporate it into your warm-up. Here's my personal warm-up-
1. Long tones
2. Octave slurs to Ab above Ab 3 ledger lines above the staff (tenor trombone)
3. B scale, A scale, E scale
4. All blues scales- 2 octaves
5. Chorale- "Rise My Soul to Watch" -1st trombone by J.S. Bach
6. Chorale- "What a Friend We Have in Jesus" in Fblues
7. Liebeslied- Trombone solo, level 5
8. Whatever I'm practicing on at the moment or just going into a performance or working on improvisation
Keep playing. You get better when you keep playing. Hope that helps.
see this'll be the arguement starter. i said QUITE CLEARLY that this was not an ACTUAL time to warm up. i was using that as an EXAMPLE of time management.
Damien said:
No one warm-up works for everyone. 20 minutes is not a warm-up. I warm-up for about 2 hours. Its a daily routine that i worked out. It consists of different things from different Books. i do long tones, dexterity exersices, lip slurs, mulitple tonguing, and other exercises. .. thats takes me about 2 hours.. i go to class then what ever i do that that day... Then i have my afternoon session where i work on etudes, and other things i have to work on for applied trumpet and recitals.... Thats gonna be another 2 hours... Play AS MUCH AS YOU CAN!!!!
Need all University Musician's advice
This discussion is to be very informative for high school and middle school musicians.
Because there are alot of students graduating this year. I wo…
They most certainly DO build upon each other. Work on your tone quality. Here are some ways to do this on the trombone that actually BUILD dexterity as well:
Accents on scales- play it slurred, play it staccatto, play it marcato, play it at FF, the F, the p, the mF. Do this at 60, the 72, then 80, and work your way up to 120. Dexterity, tone and air/wind control right there. Nowhere have I said or will ever say that they are not two seperate entities. They can and should however (for trombone at the very least) be worked on TOGETHER to build upon one another.
Damien said:
dexterity and tone qualtity are two different entites.. The do not build on each other... i know people with AMAZING dexterity with poor tone quality... They both need to be work on. Seperately and together.......
BTW for trumpets... here are books that you should buy... Arbans(of course), W.M.Smith Top Tones, Max Schlossberg, Theo Charlier 36 etudes.... These books are getting me right...
Need all University Musician's advice
This discussion is to be very informative for high school and middle school musicians.
Because there are alot of students graduating this year. I wo…
1.Work on playing pedal notes with a nice volume.
2.Learn to deal with pain to your shoulder because you will hold your tuba up there for long periods of time.
3.Get a method book,that way you can get used to different methods and key changes and time signatures.
4.Learn how to play full with control
5.Get used to playing marches because every college band plays at least 1 march.
6.Get in shape. You will exercise alot in that first week of band camp.
7. If you smoke,STOP!! Its bad for you
8.Most hbcu's swing horns while marching and playing at the same time so get used to doin that.
9.Get used to pointin your toes down while marching always.
10.Do alot of crunches and run. you will need a strong diaphram.
11.Learn to breathe correctly
12.Make sure you have a good mouthpeice. No begginer stuff. A Helleburg 7B is a good mouthpeice
13.Learn how to tune your horn
14.make sure you can read music proficiently
15.Develope a killer instinct deep inside of you. you will need to have that mind frame that you are not the best and you will do whatever is neccessary to be the best.
Follow all these steps and you will be ok for your freshman year
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listen to those who have played longer than you so you can pick up different technique advices here and there. Never think your too good to listen to the next guy/girl...cause they might change u into a beast
"Quad Logic" by Bill Bachman and "Modern Technique for Multi-Tenors"
those two books will get any quint player right with dedicated practice
remember your education comes FIRST!
trumpets get you that arbans or SOME advanced method or etude book.
make a practice SCHEDULE dont just do it.
have something to accomplish and do it in a logical time frame.
like 20 minutes of warm-ups scales and longtones etc and 40 minutes
toward a particular etude or song or whatever. thats an hour right there.
thats not what i'm telling you to do... just an example.
consistant practice makes you better. CONSISTANT PRACTICE
i cant share my method...cuz its none of yall bizness (^_^)
1. Listen FIRST.- Do you want to focus on jazz, classical or marching (by marching I mean writing, composing and arranging). Go get the cd's and listen. Or, ask someone where to find them and who to listen to. Play what the pros play and THEN create your own style.
2. Tonality- you should be doing longtones on every warm-up. Dexterity and speed and articulation will come with a better tone quality. PERIOD.
3. Scales scales scales- modes, minors, majors, triads, blues, bebop
4. Listen again. Listen to as many different genres of your focus as you can. I don't ever just listen to straight ahead or blue jazz. I listen to reggae, funk, New Orleans brass band, zydeco (which is some of the hardest to improv on LOL)- zydeco is NOT second line music, salsa, merenque, samba, contemporary. For classical- find your local classical station if you can't find the cd's and listen listen listen.
5. Build your memorized repertoire for maximum interpretation. Go buy the sheet music. Don't smoke up your little cash, buy the sheet music. Memorize it or passages of it and play it. Incorporate it into your warm-up. Here's my personal warm-up-
1. Long tones
2. Octave slurs to Ab above Ab 3 ledger lines above the staff (tenor trombone)
3. B scale, A scale, E scale
4. All blues scales- 2 octaves
5. Chorale- "Rise My Soul to Watch" -1st trombone by J.S. Bach
6. Chorale- "What a Friend We Have in Jesus" in Fblues
7. Liebeslied- Trombone solo, level 5
8. Whatever I'm practicing on at the moment or just going into a performance or working on improvisation
Keep playing. You get better when you keep playing. Hope that helps.
Damien said:
Accents on scales- play it slurred, play it staccatto, play it marcato, play it at FF, the F, the p, the mF. Do this at 60, the 72, then 80, and work your way up to 120. Dexterity, tone and air/wind control right there. Nowhere have I said or will ever say that they are not two seperate entities. They can and should however (for trombone at the very least) be worked on TOGETHER to build upon one another.
Damien said:
1.Work on playing pedal notes with a nice volume.
2.Learn to deal with pain to your shoulder because you will hold your tuba up there for long periods of time.
3.Get a method book,that way you can get used to different methods and key changes and time signatures.
4.Learn how to play full with control
5.Get used to playing marches because every college band plays at least 1 march.
6.Get in shape. You will exercise alot in that first week of band camp.
7. If you smoke,STOP!! Its bad for you
8.Most hbcu's swing horns while marching and playing at the same time so get used to doin that.
9.Get used to pointin your toes down while marching always.
10.Do alot of crunches and run. you will need a strong diaphram.
11.Learn to breathe correctly
12.Make sure you have a good mouthpeice. No begginer stuff. A Helleburg 7B is a good mouthpeice
13.Learn how to tune your horn
14.make sure you can read music proficiently
15.Develope a killer instinct deep inside of you. you will need to have that mind frame that you are not the best and you will do whatever is neccessary to be the best.
Follow all these steps and you will be ok for your freshman year